Questions on Parenting and Pornography

Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and answer your questions—this is one of those episodes. 

Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and answer your questions—this is one of those episodes. 

In this episode, Heather and Jamie listen to voicemails from you and respond to your thoughts. They answer questions about the best time for kids to start dating and what to do when your spouse has a pornography addiction. 

Question One: When is the best time for your kids to start dating? 

What a great question! On the one hand, dating can help your children better understand how to have relationships with people, gain experience in navigating relationships with other people’s families, and better understand the opposite sex. But on the other hand, a breakup can be devastating, break up friend groups, and hurt your kids. So what should you do? Heather and Jamie explore the topic of when kids should start dating in-depth.

Question Two: What should you do if your significant other struggles with porn? 

When we hear about pornography addiction, we often hear from the person struggling, but what about their spouse? How did they handle it? How did they support their spouse? What would they have done differently? In this episode, Heather shares her experience navigating the tensions and heartbreak of porn in marriage. 

Questions? Leave us a voicemail: 1-539-215-9432.

Have a question you want discussed on Life In Motion? Want to share your thoughts on a specific topic? We’d love to hear from you! Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and answer your questions. Use the number above to leave Heather and Jamie a voicemail—your question might be on our next Q&A episode.

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Listen to more from Life In Motion: Porn is the Problem.

True lies: “The church is not a building.”

With the rise of online gatherings, there’s no doubt you’ve heard someone say, “The church is not a building.” But if the church isn’t a building, then what is it? We live in a time with access to more churches, sermons, resources than ever before, so the question is, “Why church?” Why would someone physically go to a church building in 2021?

With the rise of online gatherings, there’s no doubt you’ve heard someone say, “The church is not a building.” But if the church isn’t a building, then what is it? We live in a time with access to more churches, sermons, resources than ever before, so the question is, “Why church?” Why would someone physically go to a church building in 2021? 

In this episode of Spirit In Motion, Church on the Move Lead Pastor Whit George and Kids Pastor Adam Bush, explore the statement “the church is not a building.” We like to call a statement like that a true lie. There’s a hint of truth to it, but ultimately the idea has resulted in a misunderstood, broken concept… a true lie. 

“YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHURCH SHOULD BE COVENANTAL.” 

What’s the depth of your relationship with your home church? Often, we treat our churches like we treat Apple. We’re big fans of Apple because their products work, but if we no longer like their product, we’d move on to the next best thing. There’s a commitment to the brand, but there isn’t a covenant. Our relationship with our church really comes down to how well the church can serve us or align with what we believe; it doesn’t take much to move from a fan to critic of the church. 

Like marriage, the church is meant to be deeper than a consumer-style relationship that’s based on wants, needs, and expectations being met. Your relationship with the church should be covenantal—based on deep, lasting commitment. A covenantal relationship says, “for better or for worse, I’m here with you.”

Accessibility to church content.

The mass amounts of content options and church options have caused us to view the church as a buffet line—our level of commitment is up to us. We think, whoever is meeting my needs at the time, whichever church organization, spiritual advisor, YouTube prophet, whatever is meeting my needs, I listen to them and get what I feel like I need. The problem is you never really end up being shepherded, pastored, or led. 

It’s more dangerous than you think.

We tend to listen to what we want to hear, but a healthy relationship means hearing things that you don’t want to hear from time to time. 

In Scripture, we see Paul talking about having “itching ears”. He says a time will come when people will run to teachers who soothe our ears. Simply put, we’ll only listen to people who say the things that we want to hear. That can be really dangerous because part of being in a healthy relationship is hearing things that you don’t want to hear. 

What’s the value of being physically connected to a church?

Gathering with other believers is an essential part of following Jesus. Let’s be clear: the building is not special; the gathering is special. Throughout scripture, we see God constantly looking for His people, His congregants, the people gathered in His name. 

God connects to us, not just as individuals but in a community. If you think about it from the very beginning, God tells Adam and Eve, “Be fruitful and multiply.” God tells Abraham, “I’m going to make you into a nation.” In other words, God is continually forming a group of people. The Old Testament story is God in search of a people—God looking for a nation. Israel becomes that people. The New Testament tells the story of a new people being brought into the body of Christ, becoming one body, one gathering, one group of people. 

To say that you can connect to God without the church is to cut yourself off from the assembly or the people of God, which is something that God has desired from the very beginning. When you cut yourself off from the people of God, you work against God’s plan, God’s desire, and God’s design. 

As a community, we grow so much more when we’re in deep relationships with one another. Being a Christ-follower is not just about taking in spiritual information; it’s about being connected to His body of believers, sharing stories, prayers, hope, and being challenged directly.

We are not just brains; we are spirit, soul, and body. 

Think about this: your body has knowledge your brain does not have. Most of us can’t list the keys’ arrangement on the keyboard, but our fingers know where they are. You probably couldn’t tell someone all the streets in the neighborhood you grew up on, but you would know your way around again if you went back there. Your body has knowledge that your brain doesn’t have. 

We are acquiring knowledge just by what we do. 

All the different things you participate in are shaping you more than you know. The act of getting out of bed, getting dressed, driving across town, walking into a room, sitting in silence for a moment, singing songs, standing up and sitting down, and all the different things that we participate in when we go to a physical church service are shaping us more than we know. 

When we disconnect ourselves from community and physically being in church, we lose something more significant than we realize. We lose connection to the body. 

The church is not a spectator sport. It’s not a big show to be entertained by the latest song, dance, and great sermon. It’s an invitation, not just to attend but to be a part of a community. Church is an invitation to a more profound commitment to Christ by spurring one another toward good works.

Listen to Whit and Adam explore this subject in-depth on this week’s episode of Spirit In Motion on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube.

Listen to Episode One of Spirit in Motion, True Lies: “Christians should be ready to defend their beliefs.”

What do you do with grief?

In this episode of Life In Motion, Heather and Jamie share their personal stories of grief, how they drifted through it, and how they eventually got to the other side of it.

In this episode of Life In Motion, Heather and Jamie share their personal stories of grief, how they drifted through it, and how they eventually got to the other side of it.

Heather lost her mother when she was in her early twenties. Her mother was diagnosed with cancer, and Heather dropped out of college to care for her. She was her mother’s primary caregiver when the Doctors said there was nothing more they could do for her.

Jamie was believing for a miracle. She had people praying with her for the birth of her baby. But at 27 and a half weeks, Jamie’s baby passed away just a few days short of the doctors being willing to deliver her baby early to try to help her.

What do you do with grief?

That’s what Heather and Jamie are talking about in this episode. For some, grief is immediate, fully intense. For others, you feel like you’re drifting through life, not fully anchored to anything. Whichever side you’re on, grief is not necessarily something that you experience, and then it’s gone; it’s something that you experience, you heal from, and you carry the scars forever. And sometimes, it creeps back up.

So, what do you do with grief? What do you do when you don’t believe that God is good anymore? When you’re angry? How do you heal when you’re drifting? In this episode, Heather and Jamie discuss how they experienced grief, questioned God, and began to heal. 

Don’t be afraid of your feelings.

If you want to tackle your loss, there’s no way out but through. There’s no way to make it to the other side without going through all the emotion, without going through the pain, without really looking at it and dealing with it.

You’ve already lived the most painful part of losing somebody or something. In this world, that loss of the physical person is so hard to accept and come to terms with that you’ve already probably experienced the most challenging part, and now acknowledging those feelings, as painful and as scary as they might be, is the next step. Maybe you’re afraid because you don’t process emotion well… You are not alone in this. 

Share your Grief with God.

Many of us have such high honor and esteem for God (which we should) that it ends up preventing us from being completely real with Him. Our love for Him was never meant to separate us from Him.

When you pour your true self out to Him, He will come into that space and not condemn you or even correct you.

Bring your hurt, your disappointment, your anger to God.

Leave us a voicemail: 1-539-215-9432.

Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. In each episode, you’ll hear Heather and Jamie mention their voicemail inbox; that’s where they hear from you!

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Read more from Life In Motion: Porn is the Problem.

True Lies: “Christians should be ready to defend their beliefs”

Today, we’re looking at the idea that, “Christians should be ready to defend their beliefs.” We like to call a statement like that a true lie. There’s a hint of truth to it, but ultimately the idea has resulted in a misunderstood, broken concept… a true lie. 

Defending our beliefs is an interesting topic right now. With the pandemic, the election, increased racial tensions, and government control questions, there seems to be so much more tension and division. In response to all of this, people feel like their backs are up against the wall, and if they don’t defend their beliefs, then they’ll be overtaken by the other side.

It’s unfortunate, but it’s tough to have honest and open conversations with people these days. In this episode, Whit George and Adam Bush explore how to have conversations with people… even the people you may disagree with.

With social media, there’s more opportunity for echo chambers than ever before. You can surround yourself with people who affirm and agree with what you believe. The natural human tendency is to hang out with people who don’t disagree with you. It’s hard to be around people who are just wildly different than you. We tend to gravitate toward environments, message boards, communities, and friend groups that agree with us. So, when we put our opinion out there, it gets echoed back to us. The echo chambers powerfully reinforce what we believe. So when we encounter people who don’t believe the same as us, it can be shocking.

“WE MAKE A DEVIL OUT OF SOME PEOPLE AND JESUS OUT OF OTHERS.”

It can be difficult not to make a devil out of some people and Jesus out of other people based on how they voice their opinion. When you do that, you run the risk of alienating the very people you’re trying to talk to and building more consensus with the people who already agree with you. 

So, what do we do?

There’s a story in scripture where Jesus is in the garden, the night before He’s crucified. There’s a mob that comes to arrest Him. As they’re taking Him away, there is a confrontation between Jesus’ disciples and this group of people that want to arrest Jesus. Scripture says that Peter, Jesus’ disciple, grabs a sword and ends up cutting off a man’s ear. 

“WE END UP CUTTING OFF THE EARS OF PEOPLE WE’RE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE TO.” 

When we, as followers of Christ, go to the sword, when we come out with weapons, and we’re ready to fight or defend, we end up cutting off the ears of the people we’re trying to communicate to. They can’t hear us because we came with the sword. 

Jesus says, “put your sword away, Peter. He who lives by the sword will die by the sword.” Jesus’ Kingdom doesn’t grow through fighting; it expands through peace and compassion. Jesus said by this, all men will know that you’re my disciples, that you love one another. It’s the love that we have for each other that opens people’s eyes and ears.

Listening is never a bad thing. 

When people feel heard, they’re willing to listen so much more. The greatest way we can love the people we disagree with is to listen to them. When you find yourself in a conversation where you want to defend your beliefs, when tensions are starting to get elevated, ask yourself, “what’s my motive for continuing this conversation?” Is it pride? Am I trying to dominate and win this conversation? Or am I trying to share with someone something that I think?

Listen to Whit and Adam explore this subject in-depth on this week’s episode of Spirit In Motion on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube.

Listen to Episode One of Spirit in Motion: Have you met the real Jesus?

Rest Over Hurry by Amanda Torres

Ever heard of it? I bet you’ve felt it. It’s a real thing and it turns out that most of us have it. How many times do you find yourself speeding through traffic or evaluating which line at the store is the shortest to save time? We are living in a hurried world and we’re slowly deteriorating because of it. As John Mark Comer, author of Ruthless Elimination of Hurry, puts it, “Hurry is violence to our souls.”

A few years back I was in a familiar scene of hurry. I was late getting kids to an appointment. If you have ever tried to get kids in the car in a hurry it’s the equivalent of nailing jello to a wall. It’s virtually impossible. So you can see my peril. One mom, four kids, running late… I lost it. Full on psycho mom, complete with yelling and arms flailing all while blaming the kids for being late.

Not my finest moment. As I got in the car, I knew I messed up. Everyone was silent and likely traumatized. I felt horrible. The only thing I knew to do at that moment was pray. Lord, I messed up. Show me how to make this right.

It wasn’t a second later that I remembered the Fruits of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23).

Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Faithfulness, Gentleness, & Self-control

What I had just shown my kids was the complete opposite. I had been frustrated, angry, impatient, rude, destructive, unpredictable, and completely lacking any self-control.

But why?

It was how I started my day, how I had been starting my days for too long, and how I was spending my weeks. In Romans 8:5, it says when we live by the flesh, our minds are on focused on the flesh and when we live by the Spirit, our minds are on the Spirit. I was totally living by my flesh. Instead of renewing my mind each morning by showing up for my Chair Time, I allowed myself to sleep in. Instead of taking the time pause in my day to breathe and silence the chaos around me, I was pushing harder to achieve what I thought needed to be done.

I wasn’t allowing any space for God to work on and in me before I encountered other people.

Looking back, the day I completely lost it was monumental. God took what was a huge mess up, grabbed my attention, and reminded me what His Word says about rest. I began intentionally designing my week to have space for Sabbath. I used my six days to get it all done, so come Saturday night our family could kick off our Sabbath and truly rest on a regular basis. This has rejuvenated our family and given us the peace we were trying to achieve on our own.

I also began a consistent Chair Time. For a long time this had been hit or miss. Now, it’s a non-negotiable. Some days, I have 10 minutes and other days I have an hour or more. The point is having the space to pause and submit myself to the One who knows me better than I know myself. That precious time realigns my thoughts, which shapes my actions, which eliminates the constant need for hurry.

It’s not about finding perfection in the Sabbath or your Chair Time. It’s all about the submission. It eliminates my constant need to achieve and puts Hurry Sickness to bed. These two small exchanges have allowed my family to walk in the freedom Christ offers us. What one step can you take this week to elevate rest over hurry?

If I follow Jesus, everything will be easy.

In this week’s episode, Whit George and Adam Bush discuss the questions, “What’s the point of pain?” “Why do bad things happen to good people?” We’re looking at the idea that “if you follow Jesus, everything will be easy.” We like to call a statement like that a true lie. There’s a hint of truth to it, but ultimately the idea has resulted in a misunderstood, broken concept … a true lie. 

 

In this week’s episode, Whit George and Adam Bush discuss the questions, “What’s the point of pain?” “Why do bad things happen to good people?” We’re looking at the idea that “if you follow Jesus, everything will be easy.” We like to call a statement like that a true lie. There’s a hint of truth to it, but ultimately the idea has resulted in a misunderstood, broken concept … a true lie

Adam shares his story of losing his dad at a young age, and they discuss that complicated question we all face at some point, “Why?

IF I FOLLOW JESUS, EVERYTHING WILL BE_____.

How do you fill in the blank? Do you think everything will be safe? Everything will be your idea of good. The journey of following Jesus means following Him into the unknown and into times where you will not be able to answer that question. In this episode, Whit and Adam talk about what to do when you don’t know that everything will be alright. When you doubt that God is really good because what’s happening to you is really bad.

IF I FOLLOW JESUS LIFE WILL BE BETTER.

If you’ve done any training or intense workout, you know that pain produces fruit. The same is true for following God. God may not orchestrate the pain we face, but He will use it to produce fruit in you. We can find comfort in knowing that with God, there is a point to pain. 

We do people a disservice when we say, “Follow Jesus, life will be easy.” What we really mean to say is, “follow Jesus. Life will be better.” Will it be hard? Yes. Will it be worth it? Yes. 

What is a True Lie?

Sometimes it feels like you’re not allowed to question the ideas you grew up believing. In this first season of Spirit In Motion, we want to look at concepts we’ve grown up saying and believing, ask questions, and discuss both sides of the conversations. Next week, we’ll be exploring the true lie: Christians should be ready to defend their beliefs.

Listen to Whit and Adam discuss the point of pain.

Learn more about Spirit In Motion here.

Porn Is the Problem Pt. 1

Pornography brings about pain.  It destroys marriages, places expectations and judgments on bodies, takes away the sanctity and beauty of sex within a marriage, and it brings children into a world of temptation and addiction well before their time. Our children, ultimately, are the ones who pay the price of porn, unless we protect them. But how?


Porn is no fringe topic affecting only some people. The Huffington post reported that, p
ornography websites receive more traffic and visitors every month than Netflix, Twitter, and Amazon combined. According to Forbes, 11 is the average age that a child is first exposed to porn, and 94% of children will see porn by the age of 14.

11 IS THE AVERAGE AGE THAT A CHILD IS EXPOSED TO PORN.

For the sake of our futures, our marriages, and our kids … something has got to change.  So what do we do?

Knowing that this is a prevalent problem, and not an easy one to talk about, it’s especially important to have the tools for these conversations. In this week’s episode, Heather George and Jamie Jobe discuss how pornography is impacting our children, families, and communities and what to do about it.

Join them as they have a real conversation about their personal experiences and  loving ways to support friends and family when it comes to quitting porn.

Leave us a voicemail: 1-539-215-9432.

Heather and Jamie love to bring people together. So naturally, their podcast is a place where they want to do the same. Every season, we set aside episodes to hear from YOU and talk about YOUR thoughts. In each episode, you’ll hear Heather and Jamie mention their voicemail inbox; that’s where they hear from you!

Resources & Next Steps

Learn the brain science behind porn use and how you can quit for good in The Porn Circuit by Covenant Eyes. 
• Watch Intimacy over Pornography from Church on the Move.

If you’re in the Tulsa area, text “OVER IT” to 23101 for a pastor to connect with you. They’ll help you get connected to a community of people facing this challenge together.
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